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Tariq Ali - Obama, Pakistan and the US empire

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From Marxism 2009 http://www.counterfire.org

Channel: News & Politics
Uploaded: November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am
Author: adycousins

Length: 51:23
Rating: 4.873418
Views: 93068

Tags: Obama  Tariq  Ali  Pakistan  afghanistan  imperialism  colonialism  iraq  war  on  terror  peace  taliban  lenin  revolution  marxism  SWP  

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AK47AFGPAK1 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
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Sherrilos (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
residentzombie is a con troll zombie
residentzombie (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@khelbenrage An education system in America is based upon unionized government monopoly micro managing it. The American doesn't teach people in America about free market economics and civil liberties of the philosophy of classic liberalism (freedom). So yes the gov't union which doesn't allow competition (school choice/vouchers) are degrading and will continue until true competition is implimented to overthrow bad tenured teachers that only care about their paycheck and job security.
residentzombie (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@khelbenrage How do those workers which produce the blood, sweet, and tears of their labor to build those homes come from? Also how is a fair wage for their labor determined? Surely you don't believe in government slavery over it's citizens (I think you do). America does not and hasn't had free market capitalism for over 100 years. What you are describing is your works posioning free trade and competition to determine fair wages for all. America is corporatism NOT capitalism.
KammeratGak (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
"If Chile had followed the plans of the Chicago Boys and implemented a more free system, then Chile would be worlds ahead of where it is today. " Just wrong, wrong, and disturbingly idiotic. The Chicago school's economic theories were largely followed under Pinochet. Inflation rate skyrocketed and prices increased so workers couldn't even afford bustickets to work, as a result of the mass privatizations. All the free market fairy tales are nothing but rubbish in light of the neoliberal crisis
KammeratGak (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@Ethanaxelrod Jeez. That by itself is completely hypocritical. The western has supported and *installed* NUMEROUS dictators throughout the world. Saddam Hussein, the shah in Iran, Augusto Pinochet, Batista, Somoza... The list goes on. And they have supported Hosni Mubarak, Ben Ali, M.Gaddafi, Zia Ul-Haq a.o. Any talk of the Western powers trying to improve human rights and make the world a better place is just utter garbage. History is riddled with examples. It's about their *interests*.
mcineri (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
very interesting, its a shame that a lot of the us citizenry gets grouped in with the failures of our government
Ethanaxelrod (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@stoadirizer This is so profoundly misinformed. A huge portion of the world is backwards by western standards and does not respect human rights. We are trying to make the world a better place here and tossing out dictators is a good way to do it. Ali is very hypocritical, he only sees the atrocities of those on the other side, never his own. He is after all speaking at a Marxist forum for blank sake.
Ethanaxelrod (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@5332wonderboy Until he fails at something and must then deal with challenges to his power. Idealistic, very naive. This is the sort of thinking that has lead to must misery on this planet.
Ethanaxelrod (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@khelbenrage (1/7) It is true that Chile's poverty rate is below the US poverty rate, but this is very misleading. The GDP per Capita of the US, or the Gross Product of the entire economy divided by the country's population, is 47,000 USD per year (2010), while Chile's GDP per Capita is 12,000 USD per year for the same period. In the United States, poverty rate is defined as a family living on less than 22,000 USD per year, well above the overall average family income for families in Chile.


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