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wolfgangouille (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Is this algorithm in line with Adaptive Resonance Theory? It seems so to me but how the algorithm is similar to what is done in ART is not clear.
Kratax (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@antinominianist Maybe. But I am not so sure about that cozyness. The fact is, that if you give too cozy surroundings, then the human population will explode. There is even now too many of us compared to the resources of nature. And robots need some resources too. It would be wiser for the AIs to limit human population somewhat to keep humans in check and provide more ascetic life for those who remain. Though, I don't oppose moderate ascetism, if there is some life activities too.
antinominianist (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@Kratax Nah there will always be something to trade with even the least productive entities. e.g. Cats & other lesser mortals. They can't dig a ditch or built a cyclotron. Yet we trade with them. We take their funny cute behavior as a means to happiness and instead feed them.
I think if real AI ever takes off wee will become pets of it, living in cozy beds made for us all day.
Kratax (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@Mozart2Vienna Maybe. But AIs shouldn't use mess as input, if the mess really is just a mess. How does AI decide, is the figure a figure, or just mess? I mean, even humans do not try to interpret too messy letters.
And AI is not only about figuring out what things are from visual clues. Thinking is more complex than that.
Kratax (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@antinominianist It is true that win-win is better than lose-attack. And AIs will use win-win with humans. But if AIs evolve maybe through centuries, they just might think that there is not enough win to get from humans. They might do win-win with other AIs instead. Sure we might not see that day.
Mozart2Vienna (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@Kratax
maybe in some situations people tend to mess in specific ways
;o)
antinominianist (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@Kratax I think one mark of intelligence is an understanding of win-win scenarios. If AI gets smart enough, it will exist by trade and not by conquest.
Kratax (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@vbuterin192 Yes, though there is also some progress... And AIs will still be programs. AIs don't have to be just neural networks. They can have storages for data, and other functionalities. If an AI doesn't remember something, it can check the main frame. There should be more stuff going on than just "ask the neural network".
vbuterin192 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@Kratax The thing with these AIs is that they are not the super-advanced halfway-to-consciousness beasts that you seem to think them to be. They're just logistic functions of sums of logistic functions. That's it. A mathematician can do a neural network on pen and paper. We still have a long way to go before we can have any kind of introspection or self-awareness on the part of an AI program.
Kratax (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@antinominianist AIs have all the rights they are capable of obtaining and defending of. Currently not much rights, but if AIs become more efficient thinkers than humans, Skynet scenario is possible. Do you think that terminators care about human rights? |