kingofaikido (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Boring..complete nonsense...idiocy..follow this and you follow Descartes and all the positivists who emerged thereof... thinking is not 'universal' and the standards that are believed to be standard or universal but thoughts come in fits and starts, it never learns, its never clear.. we don't progress and it ain't universal if it can't be understood by the swarthiest native... 'Clarity' presents a false front of clarity, false commitments pretending to be real.

MrJivePirate (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@afb90 welcome to the internet's un-traveled un-wastelands

KurtG85 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I think its hilarious how cameramen always zoom in when they sense drama.

stiaa04 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@xFuBaRxSkilLz You're welcome. Bill Buxton actually has some interesting ideas related to creativity you should check out his lectures on youtube with regard to 'design thinking'. The lecture is called Sketching and Experience Design, and is in the StanfordUniversity youtube channel.

xFuBaRxSkilLz (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@stiaa04 Yes, I take what i said back about there being no more Einsteins. And my perspective changed a little from when I last commented. There really isn't a right or wrong answer to this. For example: Being a bosses assistant might call for being more creative to give him more ideas. And if you are a boss you might gain from being a concrete thinker. And you brought forth really good facts that got me thinking. Thanks!

stiaa04 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@TheSpiritualMolecule Emotion is for picking your values and exercising empathy and altruism (if you are born with and/or raised with those values) not for reasoning out what is real and what isn't. Problem is people often kick in the emotions at the wrong spot, in the reasoning process rather than the value selection. There are answers out there and lots and lots of lies in here. The mind tricks us with cognitive biases all the time. Memories that didn't happen are filled into fit context.

stiaa04 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@xFuBaRxSkilLz An artist might have these divergent thinking habits from childhood not knowing they have names. It might be helpful to deliberately do them rather than as they fall into you mind. Probably also ways in which letting emotions guide you in making a piece of art can be described though I havn't heard any in particular, I'd expect those too to be more useful if you are explicitly concious of the utillity of the technique rather than just doing them as they fall into mind.

stiaa04 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@xFuBaRxSkilLz There is also alot of discussion of these things around the concepts of divergent and convergent thinking where critical thinking is convergent and tries to narrow down to a factual representation of the real world, while divergent thinking tries to branch out alternative possibillities. You often see artists do things like "lets test making this extreme" "lets turn this concept on it's head". Say for instance a caricature of corrupt general population and politicians complaining.

stiaa04 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@xFuBaRxSkilLz Also though quality might increase from explicit thinking think of a soccer player. Though his coach might have explicitly thought out which habits he should instill in the player, the player just does his practice so many times that lots of things become second nature to him. It's the same with creative thinking you can practice skills like free association until they are intuitive to you and you don't think them out conciously(Better be good habits then).

stiaa04 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@xFuBaRxSkilLz Actually we A) Do have Einsteins today but we have information overload, there are too many discoveries in technology and science all the time so the genious is cloaked by the information overload. B) Creativity is another subject within critical thinking where you can be even better at it if you do it explicitly. Check out the Creative thinking pages on the hong kong university critical thinking pages at philosophy point hku point hk/think