Hav0kftw (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@ThisIsanEffinHassle kinda pathetic that the guy being guillotined didn't know the counter

kris8246 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@ezzedine114 you never cross your feet like that. its an easy submission for the other guy.

ThisIsanEffinHassle (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Damn! The one dude in the beginning was cranking that guillotine forever, before he got the tap.

SuperiorC7own (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

awesome

PhoenixIceable (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

How would you describe Grappling ?

MMAstokke (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@Shadow2271 i totally agree ! i believe that a good combination between thoose to is the best.

Shadow2271 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Wrestling and BJJ is both grappling. I like to look at is as two different styles of grappling, one that concentrates on Leverage to submit, other to gain position to maintain a good position. Neither is better than the other, they are just two different styles.

AmericanFenian (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@Voodoofreak35 I have seen even more BJJ players choke Judokas. Judokas in the US tend to have poor ground skills; I was tappin out Blue and Brown when I was still a BJJ 3 stripe White Belt. They Judokas were good, they just lacked enough mat time on their backs and in guards. That being said, the sport of Judo doesn't usually allow for much down time on a mat. Otherwise it would be called Jiu Jitsu I suppose.

MrGatz08 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@ezzedine114 Figure 4 is acceptable with back control, but locking whilst in hook position is unwise.

ezzedine114 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

i was teatched ,that it is a great mistake to cross your feet while having the back of a grounded opponent ;; because it open a submission possibility for him ,, even thoo i see 3 of thoses figther doing it ,, so can someone tell me what is the correct opinion ?